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I live in NW Reno, near Boomtown. And, of course; the player has the right to change the value of the ace as the hand progresses. Pro21 Well-Known Member Feb 6, I have had this same thing happen to me at the Sands in Reno. I feel like the casino should not have allowed the double down in the first place. And you're right, there are a few clubs which allow DOA, and with the Reno casinos trying to compete in this economy, I expect a few more to pop up. You must log in or register to reply here.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I can see the casino's point. I dont play many D9,10,11 games but dont most D9,10,11 casinos just simply not allow a double down in this situation? You should never mess with a 19 soft or not. Log in Register. You make the decision. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. They're all DOA. You can mess with a soft 18 if doubling on any two cards is allowed but never mess with 19 or higher. Sucker said:. If double any two cards and H17, BS calls for doubling A8 vs 6, no matter how many decks. Log in. This is messed up. Doubling a soft 19 vs a 6 is marginal play even if you can use the ace any way you please, plus it is an extremely unusual play Including me I have only doubled it once. You double down and catch the dream card, a deuce! After all the arguing, they STILL refuse to pay you, so it comes down to filing a complaint with the gaming commission. Funny thing, he actually did try to somehow justify the ruling, although I could see it in his eyes that he really only half-believed himself. In some venues it is better to just not double A8 because it brings immediate heat. The overall consensus in the industry seems to be that, if this article is true, the Sands has pulled off a stunt which, if not illegal; is certainly very unethical. The play is so close that if you have 2 or more decks the correct play is to stay. Automatic Monkey Banned Feb 6, I've seen even worse that that. It seems that this particular casino suddenly came up with a special ruling that an ace is NOT necessarily worth 1 or 11, in certain cases the casino has the right to declare that it's only worth 1. It may have been 7 or 8 years ago. Sucker Well-Known Member Feb 10, First of all you are moron for doubling down on A What part of Reno do you live in? I live in Reno and play here quite a bit. If you can only double on 9,10, and 11, and you have an A8, it has to be a 9 to double. DaveBowman New Member Feb 11, The dealer makes it clear when doubling that the Ace is now worth one. At the Cal-Neva in Reno about 5 years ago, I watched a tourist double on a soft 15, catch a 10, and the dealer convinced him that he busted and picked up his bet. Do casinos cheat? I was a very inexperienced AP at the time but something told me I was being dealt cards by a felon and I had better get out of there posthaste. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Search Advanced search…. That is very marginally play and if your soft 19 counts as 9 when you double down it is correct to stay. Depending upon the count, and the dealer's up card, it's often correct to double on soft 19, and even soft You can also count blackjack as 11, and then double, if you wish; although this is obviously never correct except possibly in some of the most advanced AP techniques. Search titles only. Cardcounter said:. New posts. Cardcounter Well-Known Member Feb 10, First of all you are moron for doubling down on A-8 secondly the rules say double down on 9,10,11 at the sands regency on single deck not double any two cars so your soft 19 counted as 9 when you doubled down. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. Obviously, card counting is not very attractive in Reno because of these strict doubling rules. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. Thread starter Sucker Start date Feb 6, Sucker Well-Known Member Feb 6, Imagine you're playing single deck blackjack at your favorite casino. No double then it is worth one or eleven. Search forums. Beware of Sands Casino Reno.